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i have been involved in law enforcement for 30 years plus. i've seen it transcend. i love. i'm a huge advocate of video cameras and i'd many much rather have the pleasure of having a video camera than not having it. >> you found it incredibly important in the investigate i have work you have done to have the images that are sitting in the background as we go about everyday life. we learn ed the department store in boston or something like that. >> i'm here to tell you that video cameras deter and sometimes prevent crimes. they solve cases. this particular case, if you look at the video footage that was released today and sure you see suspect, one, suspect two but there are other things you want top see, as well. if you notice there's a young lady walking in front of the suspect with green balloons in her hands. if you remember, when the first explosion went off, those green balloons were set off in the air. smaes that's somebody you want to locate and find. other people who see other things. >> so the usefulness of this and i understand why that is the case, certainly in th
i have been involved in law enforcement for 30 years plus. i've seen it transcend. i love. i'm a huge advocate of video cameras and i'd many much rather have the pleasure of having a video camera than not having it. >> you found it incredibly important in the investigate i have work you have done to have the images that are sitting in the background as we go about everyday life. we learn ed the department store in boston or something like that. >> i'm here to tell you that video...
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i mean any breaking of the law is bad, tim. you should never break the law. >> after graduating from high school, mcveigh attends a local business college but gives it up after only one year. he is restless and looking for focus. >> he wanted excitement. he comes home. he tells his father, i'm joining the army, dad. his father says, when? well, i go in tomorrow. and bill said okay. >> in the spring of 1988 mcveigh chops off his hair and is ship dound to ft. benning, georgia, for basic training. from there he's assigned a post at ft. riley, kansas. immediately mcveigh takes to the discipline and regimenation of military life. >> i wanted to get out and experience the rest of the world. i wanted to get out of my isolation of penalty. i wanted to be part of a team. i was a bit of a gun enthusiast, and so you can't go wrong both in brushing up your skills and getting the army's free ammunition. the army for me were some of the best years of my life. >> i think mcveigh found success for the first time in his life in the army. i thin
i mean any breaking of the law is bad, tim. you should never break the law. >> after graduating from high school, mcveigh attends a local business college but gives it up after only one year. he is restless and looking for focus. >> he wanted excitement. he comes home. he tells his father, i'm joining the army, dad. his father says, when? well, i go in tomorrow. and bill said okay. >> in the spring of 1988 mcveigh chops off his hair and is ship dound to ft. benning, georgia,...
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and the government came to enforce the law. they would rather believe in conspiracy theories because they don't want to face the reality of what waco really represents, which is that there are cults, destructive cults that exist within our country and around the world. and that there is this potential for tragedy. >> a handful of branch davidians still worship at mount caramel, under the leadership of a man named charles pace. evidence of the fire serves as a painful reminder of what took place in 1993. and plaques commemorate those who lost their lives in the raid and in the fire. david koresh's name is not among them. >> he represents satan, a creative being who thought that he was god. do you understand what i'm saying? you do not sit in the seat of god. god, the creator, sits in that place. but vernon howell did do what god xtd him to do so that would be a literal example to what god would do to anyone putting man in the place of god. i believe vernon howell, the one who played the part will be resurrected, raised from the
and the government came to enforce the law. they would rather believe in conspiracy theories because they don't want to face the reality of what waco really represents, which is that there are cults, destructive cults that exist within our country and around the world. and that there is this potential for tragedy. >> a handful of branch davidians still worship at mount caramel, under the leadership of a man named charles pace. evidence of the fire serves as a painful reminder of what took...
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they were obeying the law. and they were just driving on a nice, sunny afternoon in the state of new mexico. >> the driver of the truck that killed them turns out to be lloyd larson, a man with nine prior duis. >> when we took his blood that night, it was 0.28, which was over two times the legal limit. he's serving 20 years for four counts of vehicular homicide. >> this desperate chase is all caught on camera, but it need not be played for valverde to remember. the awful event is seared in his mind and probably will be for the rest of his life. >> like nothing i've ever experienced. you can be doing nothing wrong, just driving down the highway, minding your own business, and something like this pops out of nowhere, and your life is taken. driving is probably the most dangerous thing that we do every day. >>> coming up -- a driver has a mysterious car accident. >> what are the chances that a cat jumps out the window and you're rear-ended by a cop? >> but it's what the cops do about it that's shocking. [ male ann
they were obeying the law. and they were just driving on a nice, sunny afternoon in the state of new mexico. >> the driver of the truck that killed them turns out to be lloyd larson, a man with nine prior duis. >> when we took his blood that night, it was 0.28, which was over two times the legal limit. he's serving 20 years for four counts of vehicular homicide. >> this desperate chase is all caught on camera, but it need not be played for valverde to remember. the awful event...
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you can believe the law is wrong but you must follow the law. the law says if it was the officer's idea, which it was, if the officer urged or induced him, which he did, and unless cecil was predisposed to commit this crime already, you must find him not guilty. ladies and gentlemen, i ask that you follow the law. i ask that you find cecil not guilty. >> all right. thank you. >> with the jury convened, all that's left for kunkel is the waiting. >>> and coming up, officers get a break in the missing armory key mystery. honey, it's too perfect. over a quarter million properties... you'll never want to leave. booking.com booking.yeah and coffee is coffee, a quick bite is a quick bite, and play time is play time, because for 24 hours my heartburn is lights out. prevent acid for 24 hours with prevacid 24 hour. because for 24 hours my heartburn is lights out. geico and we could help youo save on boat and motorcycle insurance too. other insurance companies are green with envy. oh, no, no, no...i'm sorry, but this is all wrong? i would never say that. w
you can believe the law is wrong but you must follow the law. the law says if it was the officer's idea, which it was, if the officer urged or induced him, which he did, and unless cecil was predisposed to commit this crime already, you must find him not guilty. ladies and gentlemen, i ask that you follow the law. i ask that you find cecil not guilty. >> all right. thank you. >> with the jury convened, all that's left for kunkel is the waiting. >>> and coming up, officers...
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law, united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions. and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> joining me now, roger increase ee, terrorism analyst. roger, want you to listen to something the boston police chief said yesterday on cbs, listen do what ed davis said. >> we have reason to believe based upon the evidence found at that scene, the explosions, the explosive ordinance that was unexploded and fire power that they had that they were going to attack other individuals. >> and roger, just to read from the complaint filed in federal court today specifically what they have in there, two unexploded ieds as well as remnants of numerous exploded ieds, also found in the search of the current suspect's, younger brother's room, they found bee-bees, the pressure cooker, low grade, also find in the search of the abandoned car, intact low grade explosive devices discovered. what do you make of those discoveries in relation to what commissioner dav
law, united states citizens cannot be tried in military commissions. and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> joining me now, roger increase ee, terrorism analyst. roger, want you to listen to something the boston police chief said yesterday on cbs, listen do what ed davis said. >> we have reason to believe based upon the evidence found at that scene, the explosions, the explosive...
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most americans think that's already the law. a few minutes ago, 90% of democrats in the senate voted for that idea. but it's not going to happen because 90% of republicans in the senate just voted against that idea. the gun lobby and its allies willfully lied about the bill. they claimed that it would create some sort of big brother gun registry. even though the bill did the opposite. this legislation in fact outlawed any registry, plain and simple, right there in the text. but that didn't matter. and unfortunately, spreading untruths about this legislation served the purpose because those lies upset an intense minority of gun owners and that in turn intimidated a lot of senators. there were no coherent arguments as to why we wouldn't do this. it came down to politics. the worry that that vocal minority of gun owners would come after them in future elections. they worried that the gun lobby would spend a lot of money and paint them as anti-second amendment. obviously a lot of republicans had that fear but democrats had that fear
most americans think that's already the law. a few minutes ago, 90% of democrats in the senate voted for that idea. but it's not going to happen because 90% of republicans in the senate just voted against that idea. the gun lobby and its allies willfully lied about the bill. they claimed that it would create some sort of big brother gun registry. even though the bill did the opposite. this legislation in fact outlawed any registry, plain and simple, right there in the text. but that didn't...
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however, there are laws. to take a semi automatic weapon and convert it to be a machine gun, you have to have the prior permission of the united states government. >> david koresh and the group at mt. carmel did increasingly believe, as the years went by, that at the end of time, they would be called upon to fight on the side of righteousness. and they read the bible fairly literally. >> there will be no excuse. >> i never saw any sign of the illegal weapons. him and the other guys started buying weapons at gun shows legally and kept sheets on all the firearms that they had. >> at first it started off as a business. but then when i think he found out he was being investigated it became a very defensive thing. if they come and attack us, we're going to fight back. in the seven seals, you start to understand we are setting up the kingdom of god to an extent and that is to be protected. we were sheep, but at the same time, we weren't going to stand up to being run over and lied about. but we were definitely the
however, there are laws. to take a semi automatic weapon and convert it to be a machine gun, you have to have the prior permission of the united states government. >> david koresh and the group at mt. carmel did increasingly believe, as the years went by, that at the end of time, they would be called upon to fight on the side of righteousness. and they read the bible fairly literally. >> there will be no excuse. >> i never saw any sign of the illegal weapons. him and the other...
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. >> yeah -- >> they underestimated -- they underestimated law enforcement. and they underestimated the resilience of boston. and william pollard would describe it as the arrogance of ignorance. they're going to be caught soon. >> james, underestimating law enforcement and the resources they can bring to this, is the most useful mistake that criminals like this make in these situations, isn't it? >> well, it's true. they underestimate the capability. look, you've got the a-team here. if you look at every great celtics team, red sox team, bruins team, rolled them together, all the players, that's the investigative team. they're going to win. they're going to -- they're going to solve the case. you can see it develop in 72 hours. that was a heartbreaking piece you just did at the elementary school. and i've seen all too many bombing victims over the years. and it's a vulgar crime. a mass murder by bombings and firearms are vulgar, vulgar crimes. >> james, before you go tonight, we're going to talk about this later in the show. but we discussed last night what t
. >> yeah -- >> they underestimated -- they underestimated law enforcement. and they underestimated the resilience of boston. and william pollard would describe it as the arrogance of ignorance. they're going to be caught soon. >> james, underestimating law enforcement and the resources they can bring to this, is the most useful mistake that criminals like this make in these situations, isn't it? >> well, it's true. they underestimate the capability. look, you've got the...
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law enforcement did a good job. hearing from folks on scanners and privately, they knew something -- they knew it was something concrete they had. >> and we really defined law enforcement in this town this week in a way that isn't often done. it includes the transit police, it includes the m.i.t. police, harvard police. i went by the harvard campus, harvard cop i know, friend of mine, pulled me over, talked to me. you realize this guy could have easily been killed and don't think of university police that way normally. >> yeah. he was there, i don't know what the sequence was. still some confusion as to whether the robbery was perpetrated by these guys or not. >> i was told it was not. >> we don't know exactly what happened, but clearly he was the point of the speer for us, he is going to be remembered unfortunately for this tragedy. we also have a casualty in mbta, richard donahue seriously wounded. >> this i think begins for us with the deaths that occurred right over here on monday. >> i was so struck, this kid t
law enforcement did a good job. hearing from folks on scanners and privately, they knew something -- they knew it was something concrete they had. >> and we really defined law enforcement in this town this week in a way that isn't often done. it includes the transit police, it includes the m.i.t. police, harvard police. i went by the harvard campus, harvard cop i know, friend of mine, pulled me over, talked to me. you realize this guy could have easily been killed and don't think of...
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at legalzoom.com we put the law on your side. woman: everyone in the nicu -- all the nurses wanted to watch him when he was there 118 days. everything that you thought was important to you changes in light of having a child that needs you every moment. i wouldn't trade him for the world. who matters most to you says the most about you. at massmutual we're owned by our policyowners, and they matter most to us. if you're caring for a child with special needs, our innovative special care program offers strategies that can help. >>> at this hour we are waiting for what we expect will be a tweet from the fbi updating the condition of the remaining suspect in the bombings, dzhokhar tsarnaev is in serious condition and also that he has two separate wounds, one to the neck or face that may be preventing him from communicating with police. we are waiting for that update. >> in the meantime there are slowly some signs of boston getting back to normal. the red sox plays today. some of the political campaigning is underway. joining us now is
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it would have been a vast improvement on the current law. nowhere near as strong as i might have preferred or nowhere near as strong as many, including myself, but the point here is that we need a bipartisan vote. there should be nothing democrat or republican about supporting gun safety, and i think the brunt of it may well fall on republicans. >> very quickly, senator, what should be done next? it seems to me if the current package is voted through, everybody gets to say they did something, and in some ways that's the most perverse result, or do you think what's left in the package is salvageable or meaningful enough you want to see that passed out of the senate? >> this bill is coming back, chris, there's no running away from it, and the connecticut effect that the nra hope would dissipate, it said so specifically is not going away. so, i think a strengthened bill and some measure of bipartisan compromise is still very much reachable. remember, four and a half months ago this issue was thought to be politically untouchable. now we came ve
it would have been a vast improvement on the current law. nowhere near as strong as i might have preferred or nowhere near as strong as many, including myself, but the point here is that we need a bipartisan vote. there should be nothing democrat or republican about supporting gun safety, and i think the brunt of it may well fall on republicans. >> very quickly, senator, what should be done next? it seems to me if the current package is voted through, everybody gets to say they did...
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in arizona, as the law states when you simulate a weapon, it's the same thing as actually having one. so i haven't been charged with just robbery, i've been charged with armed robbery. >> even though gambling drove him to robbery, watson is now betting his future on another high-stakes risk. he's decided to represent himself at trial. >> my attorney decided that a motion that i wanted him to file, he felt it was frivolous, and obviously i disagree. it's pretty imperative to my case, to my defense. so since he was unwilling to file that motion, then i had no other option but to go pro per. huge gamble to represent yourself. in fact, the first question the judge asked me was do you have any history of mental illness? okay? so he looks at me and he says, i just want you to know that i think this is a terrible idea. he said, "this is like a cancer patient trying to operate on themselves." >> besides not being a lawyer, mounting a defense from a jail cell brings numerous other challenges. >> i can't sit there at a computer and just search case law or search statutes. i have to send in requ
in arizona, as the law states when you simulate a weapon, it's the same thing as actually having one. so i haven't been charged with just robbery, i've been charged with armed robbery. >> even though gambling drove him to robbery, watson is now betting his future on another high-stakes risk. he's decided to represent himself at trial. >> my attorney decided that a motion that i wanted him to file, he felt it was frivolous, and obviously i disagree. it's pretty imperative to my case,...
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the law enforcement people did much better job than i expected. i certainly did not expect on monday as we tried to digest this terrible crime that they would have gotten the two guys responsible so quickly. it's part of the problem we have in america. can we take a moment to say isn't it good that it worked out this well, that combined law enforcement, federal, state, and local got together? instead there's this need to fight about things, some of which i say are not terribly significant. as far as the demand that he be treated as an enemy combatant. that's like, gee, let me get on television and put on a reflex that's a bit premature and also baseless. >> you look at the post-9/11 world and the things that changed in this country, some of them independently, some of them as a matter of congressional action. and i think this will raise some other questions that congress will debate, one of which will have to do with the budget and how in a time when fewer dollars are available and they're making decisions about how they should be apportioned, how
the law enforcement people did much better job than i expected. i certainly did not expect on monday as we tried to digest this terrible crime that they would have gotten the two guys responsible so quickly. it's part of the problem we have in america. can we take a moment to say isn't it good that it worked out this well, that combined law enforcement, federal, state, and local got together? instead there's this need to fight about things, some of which i say are not terribly significant. as...
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are there challenges for law enforcement in that as well? >> i think in a case like this, it works in law enforcement's you know, benefit. and benefit's law enforcement in solving this more quickly than we could have maybe ten or 15 years ago. you know, civil libertarians will always say you have no right to do this or this or this. in this case, the cameras being there and the fact the people were shooting videos, that may be helpful to law enforcement, will probably help them solve it in a more expedient way. >> thank you. >> thank you for having me. >>. asional have constipation, diarrhea, gas, bloating? yes! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues... with three strains of good bacteria. [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. and his new boss told him two things -- cook what you love, and save your money. joe doesn't know it yet, but he'll work his way up from busser to waiter to chef before opening a restaurant specializing in fish and game from the great northwest. he'l
are there challenges for law enforcement in that as well? >> i think in a case like this, it works in law enforcement's you know, benefit. and benefit's law enforcement in solving this more quickly than we could have maybe ten or 15 years ago. you know, civil libertarians will always say you have no right to do this or this or this. in this case, the cameras being there and the fact the people were shooting videos, that may be helpful to law enforcement, will probably help them solve it...
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they are law abiding. they go through a background check when they purchase their firearm and want everybody else to go through a background check. to speculate that because a state like wisconsin, you know, a tradition of gun ownership, those are the very people that understand the responsibility and this t lethality of a firearm and don't want the criminals. those persons dangerously mentally ill giving them a bad name. i would speculate that, you know, we are going to see a different sort of gun owner emerge. there is -- serious but small percentage of gun owners who are radical and -- you know, just fire, you know, and threaten and -- let their voices be heard. i suggest that they are a minority of gun owners. >> the biggest category we have to get to is the rank and files, biggest category we have. we are going through that after this. >>> life is full of surprises except when it isn't. that brings us to the anti-background senators that followed the script perfectly. they are senators that don't alwa
they are law abiding. they go through a background check when they purchase their firearm and want everybody else to go through a background check. to speculate that because a state like wisconsin, you know, a tradition of gun ownership, those are the very people that understand the responsibility and this t lethality of a firearm and don't want the criminals. those persons dangerously mentally ill giving them a bad name. i would speculate that, you know, we are going to see a different sort of...
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and i think it's fair to say the law isn't completely clear on this. let's us be clear on what we're talking about here. we're talking about the miranda warning. you have a right to remain silent. anything you say can be used against you. you have the right to a lawyer, all that stuff. what the united states government has decided to do is invoke an exception to that rule. which says that when there is a danger to public safety and you need to get answers quickly, you can get the answers without the miranda rights and still use that information in court. so when does the clock tick on that period of the public safety exception? the moment you make an arrest, the moment you begin an interrogation, what? i mean, i think the justice department will take the position that it begins the moment they begin talking to him. but i suppose his lawyers can certainly say that the time had elapsed so much since his arrest that it's hard to assert that exception. my guess is that there's no clear rule here in the federal government. this is kind of a legal rule that'
and i think it's fair to say the law isn't completely clear on this. let's us be clear on what we're talking about here. we're talking about the miranda warning. you have a right to remain silent. anything you say can be used against you. you have the right to a lawyer, all that stuff. what the united states government has decided to do is invoke an exception to that rule. which says that when there is a danger to public safety and you need to get answers quickly, you can get the answers...
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and how do law enforcement and good interrogators pull those threats? joining us now is ali sufan, a former fbi special agent who proved the first link between al qaeda and 9/11 after the first attacks. the book he wrote about his experience in the fbi is called "the black banners: the inside story of 9/11 and the war against al qaeda clothe. great to have you here. >> it's great to be here again. thank you. >> when you heard the transcript of what happened at the bedside of the suspected bomber in boston today with him being read his rights, being advised he has the right to remain silent, as a former high level fbi interrogator, how does that sound to you? >> it sounds great. that's exactly how we should deal with these individuals. there is nothing special about them. they committed a crime, and they need to be punished for that crime. and this system, our federal system is one of the best systems in dealing with al qaeda, in dealing with terrorism. i'll give you an example. since 9/11 until today, we had probably about more than 165, 170 cases of te
and how do law enforcement and good interrogators pull those threats? joining us now is ali sufan, a former fbi special agent who proved the first link between al qaeda and 9/11 after the first attacks. the book he wrote about his experience in the fbi is called "the black banners: the inside story of 9/11 and the war against al qaeda clothe. great to have you here. >> it's great to be here again. thank you. >> when you heard the transcript of what happened at the bedside of...
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there were dozens upon dozens of law enforcement officials exchanging gunfire with him. apparently they got out of the suv, then back into it, his brother was shot, wounded, almost killed, then they sort of drove -- he drove that suv himself away from there. and then fled on foot. but the question remains, how is somebody who is a 19-year-old kid, with no formal military training, who obviously was wounded, from what we know that he's here at the hospital, how he's able to evade capture for that long. apparently he used the cover of nightfall to find that boat, get underneath that tarp, and just sat there, and it was very, very close to where that incident had occurred. just a matter of blocks. in fact, our own kerry sanders yesterday had been in that vicinity for the duration of the day, and we knew this was starting to happen when kerry sanders goes we just heard gunshots. we just heard gunshots, folks moving a few blocks up. quite remarkable that he was able to evade capture, wounded, with no formal military training. that's certainly a question a lot of people are go
there were dozens upon dozens of law enforcement officials exchanging gunfire with him. apparently they got out of the suv, then back into it, his brother was shot, wounded, almost killed, then they sort of drove -- he drove that suv himself away from there. and then fled on foot. but the question remains, how is somebody who is a 19-year-old kid, with no formal military training, who obviously was wounded, from what we know that he's here at the hospital, how he's able to evade capture for...
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he has instructed law enforcement officials, federal law enforcement officials, to continue to ask that question and try to get an answer to that question. you know, it's interesting historians will undoubtedly sort of debate the president's reaction and response to the boston bombings, much as they did with president george w. bush after september 11th, but what we saw yesterday in the white house was the president and his team really trying to keep pace with those quickly evolving events yesterday out of boston. the president noticeably staying out of public view. we didn't hear from white house press secretary jay carney yesterday. that because they didn't want to come and comment on this situation because there were so many unknowns and because it was developing and evolving so quickly. so, president obama, we finally saw him last night, but i can tell you throughout the day he was being briefed, he had a big briefing with his entire national security team in the morning. then again at about 4:00, he spoke with some of his top advisers, placed phone calls to governor deval patrick a
he has instructed law enforcement officials, federal law enforcement officials, to continue to ask that question and try to get an answer to that question. you know, it's interesting historians will undoubtedly sort of debate the president's reaction and response to the boston bombings, much as they did with president george w. bush after september 11th, but what we saw yesterday in the white house was the president and his team really trying to keep pace with those quickly evolving events...
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out there lingering and people were wondering, well, if there's smoke is there fire here, maybe did law enforcement have some other information to share, in the middle of that scrum and reporters and people just collected at the courthouse, the courthouse ended up getting cleared itself and it was not apparent for awhile why they did that. authorities later said it was a bomb threat that caused the evacuation of the courthouse and the surrounding area and a bomb threat is always scary, perhaps more so right now, but while that was going on today at the federal courthouse in boston, while all the media was gathered there wondering if the inaccurate reports were going to turn out to maybe be accurate, while this was happening today, it added to the media-generated chaos. joining us now, pete williams, who i should tell you, is in the same building i am in but is at another camera because he needs to be close to his desk phone. it truly is that kind of day in the news, pete. thank you very much for being here. >> you bet. >> what do we know about what authorities have been able to find fro
out there lingering and people were wondering, well, if there's smoke is there fire here, maybe did law enforcement have some other information to share, in the middle of that scrum and reporters and people just collected at the courthouse, the courthouse ended up getting cleared itself and it was not apparent for awhile why they did that. authorities later said it was a bomb threat that caused the evacuation of the courthouse and the surrounding area and a bomb threat is always scary, perhaps...
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the fbi, law enforcement, has to make this case out piece by piece. have to lock out claims. has to anticipate, perhaps they would try to use a mental health defense in the trial. you're getting so far along in this case you're thinking about the death penalty phase. at some point probably sooner rather than later you're going to end up looking at their childhoods, where they came from. it's a sweeping, really unparalleled investigation other than the 9/11 investigation. there's a blank check. it's a full-court press. it's a criminal investigation. but also obviously you need to ascertain that there's nobody else afoot with these kind of designs associated with these folks. >> and investigators would be looking at cell phone records, credit cards, photographs, all of that? >> there's essentially an unlimited supply of information they can get. travel records and the like. there will be an autopsy of these people that's really unparalleled. if they didn't pay a light bill on time, that will come up. they'll absolutely thoroughly go through this and rightfully so. >> now, micha
the fbi, law enforcement, has to make this case out piece by piece. have to lock out claims. has to anticipate, perhaps they would try to use a mental health defense in the trial. you're getting so far along in this case you're thinking about the death penalty phase. at some point probably sooner rather than later you're going to end up looking at their childhoods, where they came from. it's a sweeping, really unparalleled investigation other than the 9/11 investigation. there's a blank check....
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one, by a foreign entity, and you have to respect the laws of this land. privacy laws and privileges of certain status individual. he was, in fact, someone who had status. he was documented. he was not a citizen, however. but in our parameters, there are certain guidelines we have to follow. i don't disagree with that. what i would like to see, and this is again in the general domain, is that we make sure that all agencies communicate with each other and if there was information and there was dead silence, a period of lull, a period of nonaction, then i would hope the file could remain open and someone would say, he we tried to get information from russia, at least what is in the public domain now. we try to get information from russia. we haven't heard from them, we will continue to pursue them in spite of any lull in our diplomatic relations. we will continue to work with their law enforcement or intelligence authorities, just to follow up. that is what i call connecting the dots and i want to make it very clear. this does not take away from the very fin
one, by a foreign entity, and you have to respect the laws of this land. privacy laws and privileges of certain status individual. he was, in fact, someone who had status. he was documented. he was not a citizen, however. but in our parameters, there are certain guidelines we have to follow. i don't disagree with that. what i would like to see, and this is again in the general domain, is that we make sure that all agencies communicate with each other and if there was information and there was...
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and law enforcement officials need to be careful. it's totally legal and proper in case of an imminent threat to waive the miranda rights but they've got to prove, if we want this guy, if he's guilty of going away for a long time or subject to the death penalty. they have to prove not that he placed the backpack on the parade route or the finish line, but he knew what was in it and he knew what was going to happen. that won't be an easy case to prosecute. unless they do everything right and they don't want to find out something before he is been given the miranda right that they cannot then use in trial. >> mike, the aclu has been i think tough and fair-minded about the administration's use of, the aclu's issues with the obama administration and their sort of tactics in the great war on terror. how much do you think that the white house has sort of come around on some of these issues? i mean there's a lot of talk about the expansion of privileges, a continuation of the bush administration tactics. here's a case where they seem to try
and law enforcement officials need to be careful. it's totally legal and proper in case of an imminent threat to waive the miranda rights but they've got to prove, if we want this guy, if he's guilty of going away for a long time or subject to the death penalty. they have to prove not that he placed the backpack on the parade route or the finish line, but he knew what was in it and he knew what was going to happen. that won't be an easy case to prosecute. unless they do everything right and...
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to be the freest country in the world is to abide by the laws that preserve those freedoms. especially when they are tested. to be a truly equal society. will require much of americans in the coming days and weeks to not bend to the paranoia and fear that make us into them. and as a nation that aims to foster freedom and equality around the around, we should acknowledge that while we mourn the innocent victims of the boston attacks, so, too, should we mourn the individuals in other corners of the world, for whom collateral damage is a way of life. in iraq today, over 30 were killed and a dozen injured. a reminder of the incessant violence that has plagued that country ever since the departure of the last u.s. troops in syria this week, brings talk of a new massacre, killing at least 350, the latest casualties of a conflict in which the number of dead is now rounded up to the nearest thousand. if boston has given america anything, it is a renewed sense of purpose and a chance to strengthen the things that have made us the weakest. dzhokhar tsarnaev will be afforded a civilian
to be the freest country in the world is to abide by the laws that preserve those freedoms. especially when they are tested. to be a truly equal society. will require much of americans in the coming days and weeks to not bend to the paranoia and fear that make us into them. and as a nation that aims to foster freedom and equality around the around, we should acknowledge that while we mourn the innocent victims of the boston attacks, so, too, should we mourn the individuals in other corners of...
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some of this video and photos were shared with other law enforcement agencies last night. we reported last night about federal law enforcement agencies receiving the photos showing the -- the man with the white baseball cap or off-white baseball cap, but that only goes so far. they were asking have you seen anybody? do you know anybody like this? this f they don't get any instant hits, then they go to the public and that's what we may be seeing this afternoon. >> thank you, michael isikoff, and now i want to bring in james cavanagh, retired agentiev special agent in charge and an msnbc analyst, and i guess the question a lot of people are asking is twofold. at what point could they decide to release this image to the public, and what are they, i guess, points that go into making a decision like this? >> reporter: right, chris. well, that's a great question, and i think the commanders there are doing the exact right thing. they have distributed to their key investigators like mike said, but they really are at the point of decision, and here's what matters. there's always wh
some of this video and photos were shared with other law enforcement agencies last night. we reported last night about federal law enforcement agencies receiving the photos showing the -- the man with the white baseball cap or off-white baseball cap, but that only goes so far. they were asking have you seen anybody? do you know anybody like this? this f they don't get any instant hits, then they go to the public and that's what we may be seeing this afternoon. >> thank you, michael...
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>> nobody does it. >> not all small businesses would be affected by this law, right? a lot of them are upset. why? >> if you have less than $1 million in revenue you are not affected by this. small businesses are split on this. depends who you compete against. if you are a small business doing a lot of sales on the internet and people don't have to pay sales tax, then that's an advantage to you, right? you can be cheaper than walking down the street and buying from a big box store. on the flip side, if you're a small business and you're doing most of your business in your state, then suddenly you're at a disadvantage because someone can buy something online from somebody else and not pay taxes. >> there's an additional concern for you and me which is that if this goes through, not only might we have to pay additional taxes, if these small businesses in particular feel that doing this is extra paperwork and costs them more money, will that cost get passed onto us? >> it's confusing. right now you have to deal with sales tax for one state or the state that you're in if
>> nobody does it. >> not all small businesses would be affected by this law, right? a lot of them are upset. why? >> if you have less than $1 million in revenue you are not affected by this. small businesses are split on this. depends who you compete against. if you are a small business doing a lot of sales on the internet and people don't have to pay sales tax, then that's an advantage to you, right? you can be cheaper than walking down the street and buying from a big box...
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n this care the law specifically includes explosives, so a bomb is for the purposes of federal law, a weapon of mass destruction. now, he will be charged with using that the normal punishment for using one is life in prison but if death results, as it did here, three people killed in the marathon, then the government could seek the death penalty. >> when do they expect to start questioning the suspect? >> you know, the best word i have on that is not going to be today, could be tomorrow, dippeds on how he is doing. i don't have a very good idea of his medical condition but i guess the feeling is that it's not as bad as some have said. he can speak. but that perhaps it's not ready -- not time to start questioning him yet. but the charges could still come today. they can charge him and then the questioning and the charging are independent at this phase. >> talk to me a little bit more about this unique group that's actually going to be conducting the interrogation. >> well, in the first phase, what the government will do here is invoke something called the public safety exception. any
n this care the law specifically includes explosives, so a bomb is for the purposes of federal law, a weapon of mass destruction. now, he will be charged with using that the normal punishment for using one is life in prison but if death results, as it did here, three people killed in the marathon, then the government could seek the death penalty. >> when do they expect to start questioning the suspect? >> you know, the best word i have on that is not going to be today, could be...
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. >> the reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as an absolute shock to them all. >> and in dagestan, the suspect's mother is adamant that her sons are innocent. >> what happened is a terrible thing, but i know that my kids have nothing to do with this. i know it. i am mother. >> joining us now from boston is nbc news national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. and frank silufo, director of the homeland security policy institute at george washington university. good afternoon, to both of you. mike, as the investigations continue both here and oversea, we understand that investigators are confident these brothers acted alone. even as their family members express utter bafflement. what are we learning about the larger case against these suspects? >> reporter: well first of all, this is looking, martin, more and more like a case of self-radicalization. now, nothing is conclusive and, you know, we're far from the end of this investigation right now. >> of course. of course. >> reporter: but the preliminary indicators, first, you have tsarnaev saying the two
. >> the reports of involvement by her husband and brother-in-law came as an absolute shock to them all. >> and in dagestan, the suspect's mother is adamant that her sons are innocent. >> what happened is a terrible thing, but i know that my kids have nothing to do with this. i know it. i am mother. >> joining us now from boston is nbc news national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. and frank silufo, director of the homeland security policy institute at george...
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new jersey's existing gun laws are already among the strictest in the nation. by the way, christie's move is a reminder he's still running for re-election, not for 2016 yet. >>> as we wait for formal charges to be brought against the 19-year-old marathon bombing suspect federal and state authorities are trying to determine what led up to last monday's attack and what red flags might have been missed. for more on that joined by nbc's national investigative correspondent michael isikoff. it seems to me the unanswered question everybody would like to know of, number one, where did these guys test? nobody believes this was the first time they did these bombs on monday. that they must have tested them somewhere. the second, what was tamerlan, the older brother, doing in russia for six months? >> reporter: exactly. there's so many unanswered questions here. but let's start with the -- that russian report to the fbi in 2011 asking them to investigate tamerlan. what sparked that -- the russian request? what information do they have? the fbi says that the russians didn'
new jersey's existing gun laws are already among the strictest in the nation. by the way, christie's move is a reminder he's still running for re-election, not for 2016 yet. >>> as we wait for formal charges to be brought against the 19-year-old marathon bombing suspect federal and state authorities are trying to determine what led up to last monday's attack and what red flags might have been missed. for more on that joined by nbc's national investigative correspondent michael isikoff....
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same gun control laws. different. policy is changing. >> half of the guns used in crime in chicago flow in from indiana, for example. >> same thing in new york from north carolina and from virginia and from florida. i'd say three-quarters of the guns i seized as a prosecutor and mayor came from outside new york city. i seized them and took them out of the hands of the bad guys. that's what you have to do. you have to have a aggressive -- >> tough trafficking laws is important? >> all of these things is important. the president might have done something like bill clinton did with the comprehensive crime control bill. put together this massive piece of legislation. stuff that conservatives and liberals hated and vice versa. i supported it because it provided a hundred thousand cops, it provided the death penalty restored. liberals supported it because it supplied a lot of money for rehabilitation programs, for improving jails, for cutting down on lengths of stay in jail at times with different kinds of programs. and it
same gun control laws. different. policy is changing. >> half of the guns used in crime in chicago flow in from indiana, for example. >> same thing in new york from north carolina and from virginia and from florida. i'd say three-quarters of the guns i seized as a prosecutor and mayor came from outside new york city. i seized them and took them out of the hands of the bad guys. that's what you have to do. you have to have a aggressive -- >> tough trafficking laws is important?...
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i play by the laws. i play by the rules. and if i'm playing by the rules, then everybody should have to play by the rules. gun shop owners still can't figure out why they have to check to make sure somebody is not a terrorist or a gang member or a criminal. but gun show don't have to do it and people on the internet don't have to do it. this system is so broken. and every name up there that you're seeing that voted no, they have no excuse. they have no good excuse. they come up with these lame feeble excuses because they are cowarding in the corner and they are afraid of the nra their only two excuses is, one, well, you know, this may lead to a national begun registry. that's a lie because joe manchin specifically put in a piece of the bill that if any of these names were held and any registry were started, the person doing it would be is sent to jail for 15 years. it would be a felony. they would throw them in jail and throw away the key. so that's a lie. so when you hear that in the future, just know whoever is telling you
i play by the laws. i play by the rules. and if i'm playing by the rules, then everybody should have to play by the rules. gun shop owners still can't figure out why they have to check to make sure somebody is not a terrorist or a gang member or a criminal. but gun show don't have to do it and people on the internet don't have to do it. this system is so broken. and every name up there that you're seeing that voted no, they have no excuse. they have no good excuse. they come up with these lame...
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but as you said, we have disp r disparate state laws. each state makes its own laws. >> michael, just the probabilities involved. based on everything you've seen, the devices they've used s, the story that we learned how to do this on the internet. we were kind of inspired by some of these web sites we've gone to with extremist, islamic clerics who are on them and that stuff. is there anything you've heard developed from the suspect where you say, oh, no, that doesn't sound possible? >> this is actually a fairly typical story of home-grown extremists, in my experience. we've had a history of home-grown extremists in the united states having pretty extensive ties here in the united states. of course, the ft. hood shooter, nadal hassan. the basic profile of these two is not really inconsistent with what we've seen. and to your point about the internet, almost every home-grown al qaeda-inspired extremist that we've seen in the united states over the past five to six years has really been affected quite significantly by english-speaking extr
but as you said, we have disp r disparate state laws. each state makes its own laws. >> michael, just the probabilities involved. based on everything you've seen, the devices they've used s, the story that we learned how to do this on the internet. we were kind of inspired by some of these web sites we've gone to with extremist, islamic clerics who are on them and that stuff. is there anything you've heard developed from the suspect where you say, oh, no, that doesn't sound possible?...
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the sequester was never intended to become law. it was put together to try to force things into people. there's got to be. >> are we going to see reaction on capitol hill? republicans going to try to pass something specific to faa? >> does this mean they are going to try to do a every time there is a problem? >> or do you try to do the big piece? >> i have to go to shameless plugs. >> 50th anniversary for the lawyers committee. go to the website. >> we have to build a workforce. 50% of the governors out there in their state of the union addresses talk about education. >> it's a great study. i know what you are talking about. my republican polling partner did a great analysis of the state of the state education. >> it is not glamorous but essential. >> pete williams. >> here it is. that is the way to look at it. that's it for this edition of "the daily run down" we know there is potentially intriguing breaking news. tomorrow we will talk to congressman mike mccall just hours after he received a top secret briefing. >>> and taking a
the sequester was never intended to become law. it was put together to try to force things into people. there's got to be. >> are we going to see reaction on capitol hill? republicans going to try to pass something specific to faa? >> does this mean they are going to try to do a every time there is a problem? >> or do you try to do the big piece? >> i have to go to shameless plugs. >> 50th anniversary for the lawyers committee. go to the website. >> we have...
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an extensive fire fight with law enforcement officers there. and andrew's account is that one of the suspects was tackled and taken into custody and that the other one perhaps got away. i want to go to pete williams in washington, d.c. pete, what can you tell us about what's happening here this evening? >> el with, i think there's ample reason to think what we're seeing h ining here is connecte boston marathon bombing. number one, we know that the fbi was very interested in this part of massachusetts based on the initial information they had gathered and some of the tips they had received. this is not that coincidence. there was a great deal of interest beyond the mere fact that this suburb is near -- in the same state of massachusetts and not far from boston. so that's the first thing. secondly, we have seen and we're not reporting the names yet. but we have seen the names of the two people that we believe have been arrested there. one of them was a name that the fbi was very interested in tracing down based on a couple of factors, including t
an extensive fire fight with law enforcement officers there. and andrew's account is that one of the suspects was tackled and taken into custody and that the other one perhaps got away. i want to go to pete williams in washington, d.c. pete, what can you tell us about what's happening here this evening? >> el with, i think there's ample reason to think what we're seeing h ining here is connecte boston marathon bombing. number one, we know that the fbi was very interested in this part of...
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also, the fact we can't even pass a gun trafficking law, a national gun trafficking law that stops gang members from passing gun to gun to gun, who's against that? i don't understand how anybody could be against tough gun trafficking legislation. or background checks for criminals and terrorists. >> it's the same dynamic. but i think the dynamic is going to change. you're in one lane or the other. to get more people to cross lanes we've got to have an election cycle. >> senator bob casey, thank you very much for being on the show today. >> thank you. >>> tomorrow on "morning joe" -- >> i love, mika, the daily news covered it. you flashed. >> yeah. >> and the one last week. right after the lost vote. >> no. i mean, it's just -- absolutely, after the lost vote. >> talking about the cowards on the hill. >> mm-hmm. tomorrow on "morning joe" google executive chairman eric schmidt joins us here onset. you're watching "morning joe" brewed by starbucks. ♪ [ male announcer ] purpose elevates what we do. raises it to a more meaningful place. makes us live what we do, love what we do and fills o
also, the fact we can't even pass a gun trafficking law, a national gun trafficking law that stops gang members from passing gun to gun to gun, who's against that? i don't understand how anybody could be against tough gun trafficking legislation. or background checks for criminals and terrorists. >> it's the same dynamic. but i think the dynamic is going to change. you're in one lane or the other. to get more people to cross lanes we've got to have an election cycle. >> senator bob...
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go to washington and get the laws changed. i'm just doing my job enforcing the state and the federal laws. and that's my job. i hope they spent a lot of money here, especially those that came from another state. cut loose with the change and go to the restaurants and build up the economy. >> the rally lasted approximately four hours. it was peaceful, except for a group of three men and two women who were arrested for assaulting law enforcement officers. and as far as the sheriff is concerned, he says none of it has made him want to quit. >> i'm not ready to retire. when i do leave, i'm from massachusetts, i won't -- i don't ride a horse, so i'll just drive off into the sunset with a convertible and then you won't care about me, i know the media will for
go to washington and get the laws changed. i'm just doing my job enforcing the state and the federal laws. and that's my job. i hope they spent a lot of money here, especially those that came from another state. cut loose with the change and go to the restaurants and build up the economy. >> the rally lasted approximately four hours. it was peaceful, except for a group of three men and two women who were arrested for assaulting law enforcement officers. and as far as the sheriff is...
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that's what the law says. that's what's happening with the faa, with the tsa, with every other alphabet soup agency in government. >> so howard, how badly are people feeling these cuts? there was an atlantic headline yesterday that caught my eye. it said, airports holding up under the crushing weight sequestration. my friend was on a plane yesterday and he said the pilot got on the radio and told the passengers, if the service was bad, blame republicans for the furloughs. now, republicans are blaming obama. there was a hash tag they were trying to get trending, obama flight delays yesterday. i don't know if that worked. >> catchy. >> what effect is all of this, this blame game stuff. what is that going to have on budget politics? >> i think the easy answer, but i think the correct one is that it is a pox on both the houses and the presidency. the fact is people don't distinguish that much for the most part if they're fair-minded. it is true the president suggested using the sequester tool as part of the negoti
that's what the law says. that's what's happening with the faa, with the tsa, with every other alphabet soup agency in government. >> so howard, how badly are people feeling these cuts? there was an atlantic headline yesterday that caught my eye. it said, airports holding up under the crushing weight sequestration. my friend was on a plane yesterday and he said the pilot got on the radio and told the passengers, if the service was bad, blame republicans for the furloughs. now, republicans...
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i won't second-guess the law enforcement community on this one. i do wonder why not. i'm not going to second-guess. >> right now you would lean on the side of get the public's help. if we have pictures. you think some of the concern is what if these aren't the guys or if they're not at 100%, is that the issue you think potentially that they don't want to put these two people on here and what if it turns out they weren't a part of it? >> that's part of the psychology of resistance. you don't want to falsely accuse. i haven't seen videos nor has anyone else. they seem pretty confident that they either were involved directly, indirectly, perhaps had more information about it. for that reason again unless you thought they just suddenly came to the boston area and they hadn't laid down roots, they were not living there, they weren't conducting their personal affairs in the community, releasing it wouldn't do you much good. chances are good there's a presence in or around boston and they went through various activities like all of us do. gas, groceries, apartment, whatever.
i won't second-guess the law enforcement community on this one. i do wonder why not. i'm not going to second-guess. >> right now you would lean on the side of get the public's help. if we have pictures. you think some of the concern is what if these aren't the guys or if they're not at 100%, is that the issue you think potentially that they don't want to put these two people on here and what if it turns out they weren't a part of it? >> that's part of the psychology of resistance....
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so, for example, if they were studying law they would get the head of the largest law firm in beijing to adopt them and see how a law firm work and meet their families and so forth. plus, we are going to have pretty robust program designed by both western academics as well as the professors. >> you got the idea this was west meets east with this program that you're starting. it's interesting, though, as the times reported, rhodes wanted everybody in the british empire to come to great britain and study. you now have seen the paradigm shift that people have been seeinging coming for 30 years now. you started it in china. why in china instead of boston or los angeles? >> i think the economic center of the world is clearly moving to asia. you have the second largest country in the world, china, the third largest, japan. and you can see that the trend is somewhat inexorable. one of the reasons for this in terms of doing a major program is that if china continues growing at double or triple the rate of the western countries and creating 10 million jobs a year, whereas, there is virtually n
so, for example, if they were studying law they would get the head of the largest law firm in beijing to adopt them and see how a law firm work and meet their families and so forth. plus, we are going to have pretty robust program designed by both western academics as well as the professors. >> you got the idea this was west meets east with this program that you're starting. it's interesting, though, as the times reported, rhodes wanted everybody in the british empire to come to great...
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this is a universal law enforcement effort to get it done. >> in terms of law enforcement when you pursue someone like this, this is the worst case scenario. is it not someone not hesitant to kill and not afraid to die. >> not afraid. one of the reasons i believe that the police waited until 5:00 yesterday to release the photos was to wait until the president was out of town. wait until the crowd at the service was dispursed. if they released the photo earlier, there would have been tremendous liability and panic and risk. by releasing it at 5:00 p.m., it happened when they were asleep. they anticipated that this could happen and it did. they are controlling the city as best they can. i think it was strategic to do it this way. >> they are not stopping the investigation while this is going on. they have been looking carefully at the bomb components and they are trying to use that information to track where the components came from. potentially to lead them to other accomplices that they may be. >> no question about it. examining the and the components allows you to trace back to the manuf
this is a universal law enforcement effort to get it done. >> in terms of law enforcement when you pursue someone like this, this is the worst case scenario. is it not someone not hesitant to kill and not afraid to die. >> not afraid. one of the reasons i believe that the police waited until 5:00 yesterday to release the photos was to wait until the president was out of town. wait until the crowd at the service was dispursed. if they released the photo earlier, there would have been...
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law the united states citizens can not be tried in military commissions. and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> tsarnaev now lies under armed guard unable to speak due to what may be a self-inflicted gunshot wound in his neck. authorities continue to question him, relying on written answers at this point. but his answers may be somewhat less important in his prosecution given the volume of evidence in the federal complaint, including description of video after the first explosion. "bomber two virtually alone among the individuals in front of the restaurant appears calm. he glances to the east and then calmly, but rapidly, begins moving to the west. away from the direction of the finish line. he walks away without his knapsack. having left it on the ground where he'd been standing. approximately ten seconds later, an explosion occurs." the complaint also contains details from the carjacking victim who says one of the suspects said to him, "did you hear abou
law the united states citizens can not be tried in military commissions. and it is important to remember that since 9/11, we have used the federal court system to convict and incarcerate hundreds of terrorists. >> tsarnaev now lies under armed guard unable to speak due to what may be a self-inflicted gunshot wound in his neck. authorities continue to question him, relying on written answers at this point. but his answers may be somewhat less important in his prosecution given the volume...
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most americans think that's already the law. and a few minutes ago, 90% of democrats in the senate voted for that idea. but it's not going to happen. because 90% of republicans in the senate just voted against that idea. a majority of senators voted yes to protecting more of our citizens with smarter background checks. but by this continuing distortion of senate rules, a minority was able to block it from moving forward. i'm going to speak plainly and honestly about what's happened here. because the american people are trying to figure out, how can something have 90% support and yet not happen? we had a democrat and a republican, both gun owners, both fierce defenders of our second amendment, with "a" grades from the nra, come together and work together to write a common sense compromise on background checks. and i want to thank joe manchin and pat toomey for their courage in doing that. that was not easy. given their traditional strong support for second amendment rights. as they said, nobody could honestly claim that the packa
most americans think that's already the law. and a few minutes ago, 90% of democrats in the senate voted for that idea. but it's not going to happen. because 90% of republicans in the senate just voted against that idea. a majority of senators voted yes to protecting more of our citizens with smarter background checks. but by this continuing distortion of senate rules, a minority was able to block it from moving forward. i'm going to speak plainly and honestly about what's happened here....
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scooter gave up his law practice, his white shoe law firm and everything to serve cheney and everyone in the country in his way. he was talking to everybody for cheney. at the time, cheney stepped back and acted like he had nothing to do with it. which is it, is he a soldier or an outlaw? >> don't forget, he lied for dick cheney. >> i know he did. how can he say it both ways, he wasn't doing our job for us and yet he died as a soldier on the field? your thoughts, wayne, because you brought it up. i don't know much about this relationship. why is he keeping a secret, what cheney told him to do? >> part of the key here is to look at it from cheney's point of view and bush's point of view. cheney believes it and george bush, what he saw at the end of his eighth year tenure who is elbowing him saying come on, the law be damned, let's give this guy a pardon, it was exactly the kind of thing that bush himself found repulsive in the case of other presidents, including bill clinton, he gave some pardons. >> he thought this is something i don't like. it was one guy who was the decider and it w
scooter gave up his law practice, his white shoe law firm and everything to serve cheney and everyone in the country in his way. he was talking to everybody for cheney. at the time, cheney stepped back and acted like he had nothing to do with it. which is it, is he a soldier or an outlaw? >> don't forget, he lied for dick cheney. >> i know he did. how can he say it both ways, he wasn't doing our job for us and yet he died as a soldier on the field? your thoughts, wayne, because you...
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law enforcement in full s.w.a.t. gear sweeping home-to-home, door-to-door looking for a suspect in monday's marathon bombing. >> it's turned into a war zone of sorts. chief timmony of philadelphia is telling us to do what you're seeing and go door-to-door and approach people one by one. but also to use loud speakers in the streets to let people to literally let people know in no uncertain terms that they cannot leave their homes. they also did have some reports overnight there might be a building that they might know that the suspect is in there but if he slipped away, who knows. the hope is they can find this guy as soon as possible. let's go live now to lester holt who joins us. i believe he is in walkertown. lester? >> i'm working with a pretty experienced crew and all of us are shaking our heads not having seen anything like this. an entire community shut down and transit system and schools shut down for the search of one suspect but what a dangerous suspect he is. suspect number two the white hat man from the fb
law enforcement in full s.w.a.t. gear sweeping home-to-home, door-to-door looking for a suspect in monday's marathon bombing. >> it's turned into a war zone of sorts. chief timmony of philadelphia is telling us to do what you're seeing and go door-to-door and approach people one by one. but also to use loud speakers in the streets to let people to literally let people know in no uncertain terms that they cannot leave their homes. they also did have some reports overnight there might be a...
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enforcement task forces throughout the country, state law enforcement and local law enforcement. the question becomes, how can we strengthen these relationships beyond just a relationship that's taken place historically. >> really quick here, 30 seconds, because there is a great deal of ignorance in this country when it comes to the islamic faith. for folks who don't understand the difference between islam and radical islam, give us the 101 here? >> well, islam represents peace, will be islam condemns killing people. you know, we often hear the words "jihad," but the jihad reference largely references an internal wrestling with good and evil, within one's self. not what we're seeing and not some of the crazies that are purporting to represent the faith. no different than having the ku klux klan claiming to represent christianity. >> appreciate your time, sir. >> an honor, sir. >>> as the people in boston mourn the dead and tend to the wou wou wounded, they are also starting the process of moving on. i'll talk about what they're doing now, how they're going to go about doing that.
enforcement task forces throughout the country, state law enforcement and local law enforcement. the question becomes, how can we strengthen these relationships beyond just a relationship that's taken place historically. >> really quick here, 30 seconds, because there is a great deal of ignorance in this country when it comes to the islamic faith. for folks who don't understand the difference between islam and radical islam, give us the 101 here? >> well, islam represents peace,...